Comments on: Kyle Orton – Jay Cutler Trade Revisited

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 21:24:27 +0000

I must admit, I was wrong. The Bears are better than I thought they were (I sound like Dennis Green). And the Jets game – WOW! Afterwords I thought the Bears were on their way to the Super Bowl. But then I watched the Bears against the Packers and thought they looked like a one and done team.

Here’s the deal, you’re right, Orton couldn’t have won the Jets game. Orton can’t win games, but he also rarely loses them either. Cutler does have the talent to win games, which is why the Bears made the trade, but he loses games by making decisions that Orton doesn’t make (see final INT vs. Packers). He has a ton of potential (see Jets game), but until this year that potential hasn’t translated into much (26-27 as a starter before this year).

Some more predictions:

1. If Cutler plays like he did in the Jets game and the Bear defense plays like it did in Sunday’s game vs. the Packers, the Bears will win the Super Bowl, which will effectively end the debate about who got the better end of this trade.

2. Orton will be beating the Bears in a Viking jersey next year. I wish the Broncos would keep Orton, but they’re sold on Tebow (I’m not). The bottom line is Tebow is making too much money (ticket sales and jersey sales) to keep him on the sidelines.

3. The Broncos will make the playoffs in 2011. We were devastated by injuries this year, a fact many overlook. We’re not as bad as our record this year indicates.

4. McDaniels will be hired by someone soon. Just read that the Raiders are interested in him. Most fans think McDaniels is a joke, but several players say he’s a good coach and he has a good offensive mind. But he’ll get hired again if he can’t get along with star players and shouldn’t ever be allowed near a draft board again.

I’m going bury my grudge against Cutler now, admit I was wrong, and say good luck in the playoffs Bears!!

By: DaPeppers

DaPeppers — Sun, 02 Jan 2011 04:47:13 +0000

Pats game was a disaster, but 2-2 at worst is way off from your 0-4 prediction. Even better, that Jets game is a one Orton never would have won for us. Our D was average or worse and we won… that never happens.

By: Steve

Steve — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:58:04 +0000

By: Scrappy Bill

Scrappy Bill — Sat, 11 Dec 2010 18:39:00 +0000

Just want to say this to the fine people of Chicago, we don’t claim Steve as one of us. McDaniels has set back the Broncos by years.

This guy is widely credited with this charge, plus the taping incident.

Re Cutler, no discussion has been talked about more in Denver than what happened. Most people here think BOTH were culpable. McDaniels acted like an idiot by treating his star player the way he did. Cutler did himself no favors by the way he responded. I wouldn’t want a player on my team that couldnt admit they made a mistake like that.

Re Cutler’s pouting. I would describe it as an unfortunate physical/behavior-ism that is no more his fault than if he had a mole on his back. And has the equal importance to football too. So what? He might not be as pretty as Leinart but damn sure is a better player.

Good luck Chicago.

By: Boomer

Boomer — Thu, 09 Dec 2010 18:44:19 +0000

The Cutler/Martz combo in this latest little winning streak has definitely helped the Bears defense. In the Eagles game, they had a drive that chewed up nearly the entire 3rd quarter. The drive only resulted in a FG, but it allowed the defense to rest up and kept Mike Vick off the field.

The defense has been able to play with a lead and been able to take some risks because they don’t have to carry the entire load themselves.

Don’t get me wrong, I liked Orton and wish the Bears could have kept him as Cutty’s backup but Jay is better, period.

By: DeCon

DeCon — Thu, 09 Dec 2010 18:13:06 +0000

The Bears will go 0-4??? Seriously, you must be on something. It must be because you aren’t used to a team that has a good defense and how much that can propel a team to victory. Jay never had a good defense in Denver and he had to carry the team, which caused Denver’s late season collapses when he was there look like his fault. I truly believe Jay and the offense as a whole has turned the page and Jay knows he doesn’t have to win games on his own. I am not much into making predictions, but I can guarantee the Bears will not go 0-4 in these last 4 games.

Now Steve, kindly get back on your horse and ride it back to the Rocky Mountains…Tebow is your Messiah now…choke on that slap nuts!

By: jhawk

jhawk — Thu, 09 Dec 2010 17:30:05 +0000

I want to say that all of this is legit and that the Bears got the better end of the deal. But we need a much much closer look at this. I would say, due to turnovers, that Orton has been much more productive than Cutler. Turnovers usually equate to losses. This is where it gets very weird. Orton has fewer turnovers, but more losses. Wehre as Cutler has more turnovers, but fewer losses. What in the world right? It comes down to one simple thing, Offense wins games, Defense wins championships. Cutler has done nothing to help that Chicago Defense, but the defense still walks out and wins games. Orton has done what he can to help the defense, but the defense has done nothing to help themselves. Orton >> Cutler, but Denver Defense <<<<<<< Chicago Defense.

By: Doug

Doug — Thu, 09 Dec 2010 15:55:03 +0000

See, you’re wrong again. Jay Cutler has taken the blame for everything that’s ever happened in Chicago. He’s pouted, sure, but every QB pouts from time to time. But he’s never blamed anyone but himself in a press conference. Ever. He even told the media when they asked him about a route that it appeared Knox ran wrong that it was in fact his mistake, not Knox’s. Twice.